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Jerusalem Talmud Shekalim
MISHNAH: Thirteen horns1The “horns” were chests for the money given to the Temple for various reasons, as detailed in Mishnah 7. A person putting money into one of the chests could not put his hand into it, he had to let the coins drop in from the top. were in the Temple, and it was written on them: New sheqalim, and old sheqalim, nests134Obligatory purification or reparation offerings, as prescribed in Lev. In all cases, two birds are required, one as purification and one as elevation offering, following different rules., young birds for elevation sacrifices135Voluntary offerings which may be for a single bird., wood136A person vowing firewood for the Temple does not bring wood but the money for it., and incense, gold for the cover137To cover the Holiest of Holies in the absence of the Ark; Mishnah 4:4., and six for voluntary gifts138As explained in the Halakhah and in Tosephta 3:7.. New sheqalim for the current year, and old ones, one who did not bring the past year, gives it for the next one139New sheqalim are given for current use; sheqalim for past years are treated directly as remainders from that year (Mishnah 4:3)..
“Nests” are turtle doves and “young birds as elevation offerings” are pigeons, all for elevation offerings, the words of Rebbi Jehudah147It was explained in the preceding Halakhah that R. Jehudah cannot accept the explanation of Mishnah 7 given in Note 134, but must require that a person offering two birds to be able to partake in sancta, the woman after childbirth (Lev. 12:8), the poor person healed from skin disease (Lev. 14:22), the male healed from gonorrhea (Lev. 15:14) and the female from flux (Lev. 15:29), personally deliver the birds to the Cohen who thereby is assured that the person is alive. As a consequence, for him the money deposited for “nests” is for elevation sacrifices; the distinction from “young birds for elevation offerings” only is in the amount of money required and the kind of birds bought. Mishnah 7 was explained following the Sages in Mishnah 8.. But the Sages say, of “nests” one is a purification offering and one an elevation offering; “young birds as elevation offerings” are all elevation offerings. If one says, “I am obligated for wood logs”, he may not give less than for two logs; “incense”, he may not give less than for a fistful; “gold”, he may not give less than for a gold denar14825 silver denars, or their equivalent in small change.. “Six for voluntary gifts.” What did they do with this? One buys with it elevation offerings149As with any money delivered to the gift account.; the flesh is for the Eternal and the skins are for the Cohanim. This explanation did Jehoyada the High Priest explain: It is a reparation offering, repairing, a reparation offering for the Eternal150Lev. 5:19.; this is the principle: Elevation offerings should be bought from anything coming151It is obvious that money given to the Temple for purification or reparation offerings must be used for the kind of offering specified. Money “coming from” these kinds of offerings are excess monies, not used for the obligatory offerings. Since obligatory offerings cannot be brought voluntarily, nor can monies dedicated to the Temple be returned, the excess has to be deposited in the gift account and used for elevation offerings. because of sin or reparation; the flesh is for the Eternal and the skins are for the Cohanim. It turns out that both parts of the verse are fulfilled, a reparation offering for the Eternal and reparation for the Cohanim. And it says, money for reparation offerings and money for purification offerings are not to be brought to the Eternal’s House, it shall be for the Cohanim1522K. 12:17. The money is not for the Cohanim but the Cohanim receive the skins of the animals bought with the excess monies..
“Nests” are turtle doves and “young birds as elevation offerings” are pigeons, all for elevation offerings, the words of Rebbi Jehudah147It was explained in the preceding Halakhah that R. Jehudah cannot accept the explanation of Mishnah 7 given in Note 134, but must require that a person offering two birds to be able to partake in sancta, the woman after childbirth (Lev. 12:8), the poor person healed from skin disease (Lev. 14:22), the male healed from gonorrhea (Lev. 15:14) and the female from flux (Lev. 15:29), personally deliver the birds to the Cohen who thereby is assured that the person is alive. As a consequence, for him the money deposited for “nests” is for elevation sacrifices; the distinction from “young birds for elevation offerings” only is in the amount of money required and the kind of birds bought. Mishnah 7 was explained following the Sages in Mishnah 8.. But the Sages say, of “nests” one is a purification offering and one an elevation offering; “young birds as elevation offerings” are all elevation offerings. If one says, “I am obligated for wood logs”, he may not give less than for two logs; “incense”, he may not give less than for a fistful; “gold”, he may not give less than for a gold denar14825 silver denars, or their equivalent in small change.. “Six for voluntary gifts.” What did they do with this? One buys with it elevation offerings149As with any money delivered to the gift account.; the flesh is for the Eternal and the skins are for the Cohanim. This explanation did Jehoyada the High Priest explain: It is a reparation offering, repairing, a reparation offering for the Eternal150Lev. 5:19.; this is the principle: Elevation offerings should be bought from anything coming151It is obvious that money given to the Temple for purification or reparation offerings must be used for the kind of offering specified. Money “coming from” these kinds of offerings are excess monies, not used for the obligatory offerings. Since obligatory offerings cannot be brought voluntarily, nor can monies dedicated to the Temple be returned, the excess has to be deposited in the gift account and used for elevation offerings. because of sin or reparation; the flesh is for the Eternal and the skins are for the Cohanim. It turns out that both parts of the verse are fulfilled, a reparation offering for the Eternal and reparation for the Cohanim. And it says, money for reparation offerings and money for purification offerings are not to be brought to the Eternal’s House, it shall be for the Cohanim1522K. 12:17. The money is not for the Cohanim but the Cohanim receive the skins of the animals bought with the excess monies..
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Jerusalem Talmud Shekalim
MISHNAH: Thirteen horns1The “horns” were chests for the money given to the Temple for various reasons, as detailed in Mishnah 7. A person putting money into one of the chests could not put his hand into it, he had to let the coins drop in from the top. were in the Temple, and it was written on them: New sheqalim, and old sheqalim, nests134Obligatory purification or reparation offerings, as prescribed in Lev. In all cases, two birds are required, one as purification and one as elevation offering, following different rules., young birds for elevation sacrifices135Voluntary offerings which may be for a single bird., wood136A person vowing firewood for the Temple does not bring wood but the money for it., and incense, gold for the cover137To cover the Holiest of Holies in the absence of the Ark; Mishnah 4:4., and six for voluntary gifts138As explained in the Halakhah and in Tosephta 3:7.. New sheqalim for the current year, and old ones, one who did not bring the past year, gives it for the next one139New sheqalim are given for current use; sheqalim for past years are treated directly as remainders from that year (Mishnah 4:3)..
“Nests” are turtle doves and “young birds as elevation offerings” are pigeons, all for elevation offerings, the words of Rebbi Jehudah147It was explained in the preceding Halakhah that R. Jehudah cannot accept the explanation of Mishnah 7 given in Note 134, but must require that a person offering two birds to be able to partake in sancta, the woman after childbirth (Lev. 12:8), the poor person healed from skin disease (Lev. 14:22), the male healed from gonorrhea (Lev. 15:14) and the female from flux (Lev. 15:29), personally deliver the birds to the Cohen who thereby is assured that the person is alive. As a consequence, for him the money deposited for “nests” is for elevation sacrifices; the distinction from “young birds for elevation offerings” only is in the amount of money required and the kind of birds bought. Mishnah 7 was explained following the Sages in Mishnah 8.. But the Sages say, of “nests” one is a purification offering and one an elevation offering; “young birds as elevation offerings” are all elevation offerings. If one says, “I am obligated for wood logs”, he may not give less than for two logs; “incense”, he may not give less than for a fistful; “gold”, he may not give less than for a gold denar14825 silver denars, or their equivalent in small change.. “Six for voluntary gifts.” What did they do with this? One buys with it elevation offerings149As with any money delivered to the gift account.; the flesh is for the Eternal and the skins are for the Cohanim. This explanation did Jehoyada the High Priest explain: It is a reparation offering, repairing, a reparation offering for the Eternal150Lev. 5:19.; this is the principle: Elevation offerings should be bought from anything coming151It is obvious that money given to the Temple for purification or reparation offerings must be used for the kind of offering specified. Money “coming from” these kinds of offerings are excess monies, not used for the obligatory offerings. Since obligatory offerings cannot be brought voluntarily, nor can monies dedicated to the Temple be returned, the excess has to be deposited in the gift account and used for elevation offerings. because of sin or reparation; the flesh is for the Eternal and the skins are for the Cohanim. It turns out that both parts of the verse are fulfilled, a reparation offering for the Eternal and reparation for the Cohanim. And it says, money for reparation offerings and money for purification offerings are not to be brought to the Eternal’s House, it shall be for the Cohanim1522K. 12:17. The money is not for the Cohanim but the Cohanim receive the skins of the animals bought with the excess monies..
“Nests” are turtle doves and “young birds as elevation offerings” are pigeons, all for elevation offerings, the words of Rebbi Jehudah147It was explained in the preceding Halakhah that R. Jehudah cannot accept the explanation of Mishnah 7 given in Note 134, but must require that a person offering two birds to be able to partake in sancta, the woman after childbirth (Lev. 12:8), the poor person healed from skin disease (Lev. 14:22), the male healed from gonorrhea (Lev. 15:14) and the female from flux (Lev. 15:29), personally deliver the birds to the Cohen who thereby is assured that the person is alive. As a consequence, for him the money deposited for “nests” is for elevation sacrifices; the distinction from “young birds for elevation offerings” only is in the amount of money required and the kind of birds bought. Mishnah 7 was explained following the Sages in Mishnah 8.. But the Sages say, of “nests” one is a purification offering and one an elevation offering; “young birds as elevation offerings” are all elevation offerings. If one says, “I am obligated for wood logs”, he may not give less than for two logs; “incense”, he may not give less than for a fistful; “gold”, he may not give less than for a gold denar14825 silver denars, or their equivalent in small change.. “Six for voluntary gifts.” What did they do with this? One buys with it elevation offerings149As with any money delivered to the gift account.; the flesh is for the Eternal and the skins are for the Cohanim. This explanation did Jehoyada the High Priest explain: It is a reparation offering, repairing, a reparation offering for the Eternal150Lev. 5:19.; this is the principle: Elevation offerings should be bought from anything coming151It is obvious that money given to the Temple for purification or reparation offerings must be used for the kind of offering specified. Money “coming from” these kinds of offerings are excess monies, not used for the obligatory offerings. Since obligatory offerings cannot be brought voluntarily, nor can monies dedicated to the Temple be returned, the excess has to be deposited in the gift account and used for elevation offerings. because of sin or reparation; the flesh is for the Eternal and the skins are for the Cohanim. It turns out that both parts of the verse are fulfilled, a reparation offering for the Eternal and reparation for the Cohanim. And it says, money for reparation offerings and money for purification offerings are not to be brought to the Eternal’s House, it shall be for the Cohanim1522K. 12:17. The money is not for the Cohanim but the Cohanim receive the skins of the animals bought with the excess monies..
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“Six for voluntary gifts.” Ḥizqiah said, corresponding to the six clans165During the week of service of a “watch” of Cohanim, each of the six workdays another clan would serve, whose members then had claim to all hides of elevation offerings of that day.
In B, the statement is ascribed to Rav, Ḥizqiah’s cousin, and fellow student of the Elder R. Hiyya, Rav’s uncle and Ḥizqiah’s father.. Bar Pedaiah said, corresponding to seven animals: bull, and calf, and he-goat, ram, and lamb, and kid goat. Samuel said, corresponding to six sacrifices: the nests of the sufferer from gonorrhea, the nests of the sufferer from flux, the nests of the new mother, purification sacrifices, and reparation sacrifices, flour offerings, and the Tenth of an Ephah166This list has 7 items. The corresponding list in B has only six, but the selection in unconvincing. Probably the correct list is Tosephta 3:7: The excesses of money for 1) purification sacrifices, 2) reparation sacrifices, 3) nests of sufferers from gonorrhea or flux, 4) nests of a woman after childbirth, 5) offerings of a nazir, 6) of a healed sufferer from skin disease.. Rebbi Joḥanan said, because the gifts were many, they added many horns for it. [As it is said]167This addition by the corrector, taken from B, has to be deleted, since it hides the fact that the following quote is the start of a question. The remaining additions by the corrector, while unnecessary, are not in conflict with the line of thought., when they were finished they brought before the king and Jehoyada1682 Chr.24:14. The problem is that the remaining part of the verse, quoted in full in ג nd B, notes that the excess money donated for the renovation of the Temple under King Joash was used to make silver and gold vessels for the Temple, while the corresponding verse in 2K. 12:14 declares the opposite. etc. Rebbi Samuel ben Naḥman in the name of Rebbi Jonathan [said], two voluntary gifts169The two verses refer to two separate collections.. Rebbi Ismael stated, one gift. But is it not written1702 Chr.24:8, while in 2K. 12:10 it is reported that the chest was deposited in the priests’ courtyard, to the right (East) of the altar., the king commanded and they made a chest and put it at the outside of the gate of the Eternal’s House. Rav Ḥuna said, because of those impure. Rebbi Ḥuna in the name of Rav Joseph: Because of but silver cups would not be made in the Eternal’s House1712K. 12:14.. Things similar to silver cups would not be made in the Eternal’s House172Either there were two different calls for gifts to the Temple, or for the same collection period there were two chests, one inside and one outside, and vessels were made only from the money which never entered the sacred domain..
In B, the statement is ascribed to Rav, Ḥizqiah’s cousin, and fellow student of the Elder R. Hiyya, Rav’s uncle and Ḥizqiah’s father.. Bar Pedaiah said, corresponding to seven animals: bull, and calf, and he-goat, ram, and lamb, and kid goat. Samuel said, corresponding to six sacrifices: the nests of the sufferer from gonorrhea, the nests of the sufferer from flux, the nests of the new mother, purification sacrifices, and reparation sacrifices, flour offerings, and the Tenth of an Ephah166This list has 7 items. The corresponding list in B has only six, but the selection in unconvincing. Probably the correct list is Tosephta 3:7: The excesses of money for 1) purification sacrifices, 2) reparation sacrifices, 3) nests of sufferers from gonorrhea or flux, 4) nests of a woman after childbirth, 5) offerings of a nazir, 6) of a healed sufferer from skin disease.. Rebbi Joḥanan said, because the gifts were many, they added many horns for it. [As it is said]167This addition by the corrector, taken from B, has to be deleted, since it hides the fact that the following quote is the start of a question. The remaining additions by the corrector, while unnecessary, are not in conflict with the line of thought., when they were finished they brought before the king and Jehoyada1682 Chr.24:14. The problem is that the remaining part of the verse, quoted in full in ג nd B, notes that the excess money donated for the renovation of the Temple under King Joash was used to make silver and gold vessels for the Temple, while the corresponding verse in 2K. 12:14 declares the opposite. etc. Rebbi Samuel ben Naḥman in the name of Rebbi Jonathan [said], two voluntary gifts169The two verses refer to two separate collections.. Rebbi Ismael stated, one gift. But is it not written1702 Chr.24:8, while in 2K. 12:10 it is reported that the chest was deposited in the priests’ courtyard, to the right (East) of the altar., the king commanded and they made a chest and put it at the outside of the gate of the Eternal’s House. Rav Ḥuna said, because of those impure. Rebbi Ḥuna in the name of Rav Joseph: Because of but silver cups would not be made in the Eternal’s House1712K. 12:14.. Things similar to silver cups would not be made in the Eternal’s House172Either there were two different calls for gifts to the Temple, or for the same collection period there were two chests, one inside and one outside, and vessels were made only from the money which never entered the sacred domain..
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“Six for voluntary gifts.” Ḥizqiah said, corresponding to the six clans165During the week of service of a “watch” of Cohanim, each of the six workdays another clan would serve, whose members then had claim to all hides of elevation offerings of that day.
In B, the statement is ascribed to Rav, Ḥizqiah’s cousin, and fellow student of the Elder R. Hiyya, Rav’s uncle and Ḥizqiah’s father.. Bar Pedaiah said, corresponding to seven animals: bull, and calf, and he-goat, ram, and lamb, and kid goat. Samuel said, corresponding to six sacrifices: the nests of the sufferer from gonorrhea, the nests of the sufferer from flux, the nests of the new mother, purification sacrifices, and reparation sacrifices, flour offerings, and the Tenth of an Ephah166This list has 7 items. The corresponding list in B has only six, but the selection in unconvincing. Probably the correct list is Tosephta 3:7: The excesses of money for 1) purification sacrifices, 2) reparation sacrifices, 3) nests of sufferers from gonorrhea or flux, 4) nests of a woman after childbirth, 5) offerings of a nazir, 6) of a healed sufferer from skin disease.. Rebbi Joḥanan said, because the gifts were many, they added many horns for it. [As it is said]167This addition by the corrector, taken from B, has to be deleted, since it hides the fact that the following quote is the start of a question. The remaining additions by the corrector, while unnecessary, are not in conflict with the line of thought., when they were finished they brought before the king and Jehoyada1682 Chr.24:14. The problem is that the remaining part of the verse, quoted in full in ג nd B, notes that the excess money donated for the renovation of the Temple under King Joash was used to make silver and gold vessels for the Temple, while the corresponding verse in 2K. 12:14 declares the opposite. etc. Rebbi Samuel ben Naḥman in the name of Rebbi Jonathan [said], two voluntary gifts169The two verses refer to two separate collections.. Rebbi Ismael stated, one gift. But is it not written1702 Chr.24:8, while in 2K. 12:10 it is reported that the chest was deposited in the priests’ courtyard, to the right (East) of the altar., the king commanded and they made a chest and put it at the outside of the gate of the Eternal’s House. Rav Ḥuna said, because of those impure. Rebbi Ḥuna in the name of Rav Joseph: Because of but silver cups would not be made in the Eternal’s House1712K. 12:14.. Things similar to silver cups would not be made in the Eternal’s House172Either there were two different calls for gifts to the Temple, or for the same collection period there were two chests, one inside and one outside, and vessels were made only from the money which never entered the sacred domain..
In B, the statement is ascribed to Rav, Ḥizqiah’s cousin, and fellow student of the Elder R. Hiyya, Rav’s uncle and Ḥizqiah’s father.. Bar Pedaiah said, corresponding to seven animals: bull, and calf, and he-goat, ram, and lamb, and kid goat. Samuel said, corresponding to six sacrifices: the nests of the sufferer from gonorrhea, the nests of the sufferer from flux, the nests of the new mother, purification sacrifices, and reparation sacrifices, flour offerings, and the Tenth of an Ephah166This list has 7 items. The corresponding list in B has only six, but the selection in unconvincing. Probably the correct list is Tosephta 3:7: The excesses of money for 1) purification sacrifices, 2) reparation sacrifices, 3) nests of sufferers from gonorrhea or flux, 4) nests of a woman after childbirth, 5) offerings of a nazir, 6) of a healed sufferer from skin disease.. Rebbi Joḥanan said, because the gifts were many, they added many horns for it. [As it is said]167This addition by the corrector, taken from B, has to be deleted, since it hides the fact that the following quote is the start of a question. The remaining additions by the corrector, while unnecessary, are not in conflict with the line of thought., when they were finished they brought before the king and Jehoyada1682 Chr.24:14. The problem is that the remaining part of the verse, quoted in full in ג nd B, notes that the excess money donated for the renovation of the Temple under King Joash was used to make silver and gold vessels for the Temple, while the corresponding verse in 2K. 12:14 declares the opposite. etc. Rebbi Samuel ben Naḥman in the name of Rebbi Jonathan [said], two voluntary gifts169The two verses refer to two separate collections.. Rebbi Ismael stated, one gift. But is it not written1702 Chr.24:8, while in 2K. 12:10 it is reported that the chest was deposited in the priests’ courtyard, to the right (East) of the altar., the king commanded and they made a chest and put it at the outside of the gate of the Eternal’s House. Rav Ḥuna said, because of those impure. Rebbi Ḥuna in the name of Rav Joseph: Because of but silver cups would not be made in the Eternal’s House1712K. 12:14.. Things similar to silver cups would not be made in the Eternal’s House172Either there were two different calls for gifts to the Temple, or for the same collection period there were two chests, one inside and one outside, and vessels were made only from the money which never entered the sacred domain..
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